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ZCZC MIATCDAT3 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM HURRICANE IRENE DISCUSSION NUMBER 17 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL 5 AM EDT SUN OCT 17 1999 WHILE A BURST OF STRONG CONVECTION HAS OCCURRED NEAR THE CENTER OF IRENE OVER THE PAST FEW HOURS...IT IS NOW WEAKENING AND BOTH THE RADAR AND SATELLITE PRESENTATIONS REMAIN UNIMPRESSIVE. HOWEVER... THE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT RECENTLY REPORTED 850 MB WINDS AS HIGH AS 71 KT AND A MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE OF 982 MB. IT IS LIKELY THE DRY AIR SEEN IN WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SOUTH AND WEST OF IRENE IS ENTRAINING INTO THE HURRICANE AND SUPPRESSING THE CONVECTION. THE INITIAL INTENSITY REMAINS AT 65 KT. THE INITIAL MOTION IS 360/08. WATER VAPOR IMAGERY INDICATES A TROUGH OVER THE CENTRAL U.S. HEADING FOR IRENE...ALONG WITH THE ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT SEEN ON SURFACE ANALYSES. A BROAD EASTWARD-MOVING RIDGE IS EVIDENT IN THE IMAGERY WITH AN AXIS ALONG 70W. THIS COMBINATION OF FEATURES SHOULD GRADUALLY TURN IRENE TO THE NORTHEAST WITH ACCELERATION OVER THE NEXT 36 HR. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK REFLECTS THIS AND IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH MODEL GUIDANCE. THERE ARE DISAGREEMENTS IN THE LARGE SCALE GUIDANCE AS TO THE EVENTUAL FATE OF IRENE NEAR THE 36-48 HR FORECASTS. THE ECMWF...UKMET... AND ENVIRONMENT CANADA GLOBAL MODEL TRANSFORM IRENE INTO A LARGE AND VICIOUS EXTRATROPICAL LOW...WHILE THE AVN...NOGAPS...AND ETA FAVOR A WEAKER AND MORE SHEARED OUT SOLUTION. THE NHC TRACK AND INTENSITY FORECASTS ASSUME THE STRONGER SCENARIO. ALTHOUGH IRENE SHOULD PASS ACROSS THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE GULF STREAM BEFORE LANDFALL...THE LACK OF ORGANIZATION SHOULD LIKELY PREVENT SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING. A COMBINATION OF LAND INTERACTION ...INCREASING SHEAR...AND COLDER AIR AND WATER SHOULD CAUSE IRENE TO WEAKEN AFTER LANDFALL. THE INTENSITY FORECAST CALLS FOR LITTLE CHANGE IN STRENGTH BEFORE LANDFALL...AND EXTRATROPICAL TRANSITION AFTER LANDFALL. BEVEN/GUINEY FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 17/0900Z 30.7N 79.9W 65 KTS 12HR VT 17/1800Z 32.0N 79.7W 65 KTS 24HR VT 18/0600Z 34.8N 77.4W 65 KTS...INLAND 36HR VT 18/1800Z 39.0N 70.5W 55 KTS...EXTRATROPICAL 48HR VT 19/0600Z 44.0N 61.0W 50 KTS...EXTRATROPICAL NNNN