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ZCZC MIATCDEP5 ALL TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM TROPICAL DEPRESSION TEN-E DISCUSSION NUMBER 3 NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MIAMI FL 8 PM PDT TUE AUG 17 1999 THE LOW LEVEL CENTER IS NOT WELL DEFINED. THE SAB FIX IS 75 N MI NORTH-NORTHWEST OF TAFB AND THE AFWA FIX IS EVEN FARTHER NORTH. THE UNCERTAIN INITIAL MOTION IS ESTIMATED AT 295/11...NOT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. MOST OF THE 18Z TRACK GUIDANCE MODELS MOVE THE SYSTEM GENERALLY WESTWARD AT 10 KNOTS OR MORE. BUT THE 12Z UKMET SHOWS AN EASTWARD MOTION AND THE 12Z NOGAPS SHOWS A SLOW NORTH TO NORTHEASTWARD MOTION FOR 72 HOURS. THE GFDL IS NOT AVAILABLE. GIVEN THIS SPREAD IN THE GUIDANCE...THE OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK TURNS THE SYSTEM WESTWARD BUT SLOWS THE FORWARD SPEED TO 5 KT AFTER 48 HOURS. THIS IS JUST A LITTLE SLOWER THAN THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY. THE DVORAK INTENSITY ESTIMATES ARE 35 KNOTS FROM TAFB...SAB AND AFWA. THIS IS BASED ON AN IMPRESSIVE COLD CDO LOCATED WEST OF THE CENTER. HOWEVER THE DEPRESSION IS NOT UPGRADED TO A TROPICAL STORM ON THIS ADVISORY BECAUSE OF THE APPARENT POORLY DEFINED CENTER. THE FORECAST WIND SPEED IS THE SAME AS THE PREVIOUS ADVISORY...CALLING FOR A TROPICAL STORM IN 12 HOURS AND A HURRICANE IN 72 HOURS. THIS IS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE SHIPS MODEL WHICH SHOWS A VERTICAL SHEAR OF 23 KT REDUCING TO 10 KT IN 48 HOURS. LAWRENCE FORECAST POSITIONS AND MAX WINDS INITIAL 18/0300Z 14.3N 116.9W 30 KTS 12HR VT 18/1200Z 14.9N 118.3W 35 KTS 24HR VT 19/0000Z 15.7N 120.0W 40 KTS 36HR VT 19/1200Z 16.1N 121.5W 50 KTS 48HR VT 20/0000Z 16.5N 123.0W 60 KTS 72HR VT 21/0000Z 16.5N 125.0W 65 KTS NNNN